Q: Continuous feeds: S right now has an ng tube and they switched him yesterday to a lower feed volume and it is on continuously. They thought maybe his belly wouldn’t be as full, reflux less, secretions less bothersome...any thoughts / experiences around this?
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My experiences with:
Suctioning: Nasal suctioning should be limited as the membranes are thin and susceptible to damage(causing nose bleeds)...maybe twice a day or after a physio session...stick to oral suctioning and keep the depth roughly the distance from lips to ear +1 cm ...this should get the secretions successfully without going into the esophagus (suctioning there is usually fruitless)...as for thicker secretions you may have to go with two different diameter catheters for suctions as we do (right now we use a #8 for thinner secretions and a #10 for the thicker ones-thickness seems to depend on sicknesses, dry weather, diet etc...) when suctioning push the catheter in to max depth (lip to ear depth) without the vacuum plugged(helps get the tube down without getting stuck on something on the way in...like his tongue, cheek etc....) then plug vacuum and withdraw slowly ...when you see the tube starting to get fluids moving stop and let it suck 'til no more come and let withdraw some more until the fluids come again...repeat til tube is all the way out ....then repeat this process....listen to his breathing in between insertions for the "rattly" sounds...if rattly try some percussion or repositioning to get those secretion plugs loose and moving out of the lungs or wherever they are stuck....goal is a clear breathing sound...(not always possible)...humidifiers or nebulizers will help with loosen the crap in the lungs and throat and make suctioning a little easier...when the secretions are thick they are really hard to suction G-tubes
L has a GJ tube, which is an advanced G tube to specifically avoid reflux as the food is past the point of where it can reflux. Fundiplication (Nissen)is something that, it seems, is more common in the States than here in Canada...was never even talked about with us.
L is on a 21 hr feed schedule and it seems to work well for him...I think it might help with keeping him hydrated as well, which keeps his secretions less thick (when people are dehydrated our secretions become quite pasty and thick) although my thoughts on this constant feed thing are only a theory...ask a doc.
Apnea: L had lots of apnic episodes in his first 4 - 6 months but are occurring less frequently now as his muscle control is a little better co-ordinated....with other kids where the disease isn't quite as severe the diaphragm gains strength and co-ordination and once this happens the apnic episodes also abate...this is also directly linked to viruses...more apnea with a cold. etc...apnea is controlled (although not stopped completely) with (initially) cpap and then when kids gain a little strength a bipap machine (need strength to trigger a bipap machine) .... these machines assist with breathing so that when resp. drops below a certain #/ min. then the machine takes over....
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J does bolus feeds during the day and continuous feeds at night. He takes Prilosec (Omperozole) for reflux and that has helped immensely!
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S was really gunky for the first 6 - 8 months of his life and required daily deep mouth suctioning and sometimes suctioning thru his nose. I should say that we were not taught how to suction him through his nose initially, though, and I did feel that it got much more gunk than the throat suctioning did - especially when he was sick and stuffed up - but by the time we knew about it, S was old enough to really protest when we did it, so we reserved it for times when he was ill. The hard thing with suctioning is having the gumption to really get the tube down far enough to make a difference, and making sure that the tube is large enough to get the really thick secretions. I can't remember now what size tube we used on a daily basis with S, but I want to say that it was almost twice the diameter of the infant one they started with in the NICU. For us, the bigger diameter worked MUCH better. I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but we also found having a portable suction machine a godsend. It is only recently that I don't travel with this in the car, no matter how far we went from home. We left the hospital with this, an apnea monitor and a pulse-ox machine, and we needed all of them for at least a year (and like I said, we still have the suction machine just-in-case, but haven't used it for a year).
Thinking of car travel makes me also want to mention that when S was under a year old, I was constantly worried about him not being able to support his head when I would need to stop quickly (or sometimes even when I would stop gradually, his head would fall forward and he couldn't move it back himself). This was really scary for me, and we quickly realized that he needed to have additional support around his neck in the car. At that time, those little 'mini boppy' head protectors had not come onto the market, so we manufactured our own, and also bought padded neck guards that could be wrapped around the straps of the carseat restraints to support his head. Now I've seen in some baby stores that they sell a little 'mini boppy' that looks like a boppy but is really small and goes around an infants head in the car. I think this would be perfect, and save your piece of mind on the car trip home from the hospital!
Humidifiers are really helpful for us all of the time (it is very arid in Colorado), but especially when S is sick. When he is ill, I often just run a really hot shower and we sit in the bathroom and let the steam loosen him up. We have found that a warm mist humidifier works best for us.
S has a G-tube and a Nissen, and we do not regret the Nissen, because S did have really terrible reflux. I think that even if we didn't have the tube, we would have needed the Nissen. (And, I'm still not sure about the tube - I think I'm glad that we have it!).
S was on continuous feeds for about 3 months, and then we switched him to bollus feeds (where you use a really big syringe and the tube, and let gravity take the food in). We did bolus feeds during the day, and used a kangaroo pump (ask about this at the hospital, it is really hard to describe) at night until S was just over 9 months old. We also started giving him a bottle around 3 months, which was great for his oral development, even though it wasn't a big source of nutrition. 3 months is really the 'magic' number in regard to oral skills (so we were told), in that it is important to try to have them try oral feeds by three months, or it is harder to learn the skills. We also encouraged S to use a pacifier (dummy), and I think this really helped with his oral skills (but he still has it a 2 1/2, which we don't mind - it is only for sleep - but my mother is always asking after it and if we have had the 'pacifier fairy' take it away!! Ha!!) But, in regard to the pump feeds: we feel that the pump feeds contributed to the failure of his Nissen, because even though they went in really slowly (I can remember having the setting on 80ml per hour for forever), I think that the fact that they were being 'pumped' in contributed to pressure on his Nissen, and helped it to fail. This is just my opinion, however, and the doctors didn't feel that it made a difference. Regardless, once S had the Nissen and G-tube redone, we switched totally to bollus feeds, and now S eats three meals of purees, yogurt, cheese, crackers, milk, etc, and we only give him a 6 oz bollus of 'tube food' at night.
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J, now 3 yrs 8 mnts (WOW!!) was born at 40 weeks and spent 6 weeks in the NICU. He came home with a trach, G-tube, and nissen fundoplication. J spent several weeks the exact way you described your boy - very gurgly, "wet", junky - all of that. He would aspirate, code, they would ventilate him, wean him a few days later, then the process would start all over. Eventually the only thing we could do was trach him. I'm certainly not saying that is the answer for your boy, but it was for J. I believe it helped him to thrive as a baby and now he is rarely sick. Of course regular ole' childhood illnesses do get the best of him, but he is a fighter. Now we use a ventilator, which was started when he was about 11 months old. He isn't ventilator dependent, but he uses it at night, and it helps so much when he is sick. It is kind of a preventive measure as well. Others here may / may not agree with this, but giving these kids oxygen is not always the best bet. Yes, there are times when it is required. But most of the time it masks the underlying problem which is hypoventilation, which requires vent support in these kids. For instance when J is sick and his oxygen saturation begins to drop, putting him on the ventilator almost instantly brings his saturation back into a normal range. J started on Robinul when he was about 6 months old and has been on / off since then. Currently he is getting a very minimal does - 3cc per day - to help with his oral secretions. However, this is counterbalanced with regular nebulizer treatments and CPT to prevent any thick secretions from collecting in his lungs. We have always suctioned through J's mouth. In the beginning, we did do some nasal, but mostly his secretions would pour out of his mouth. Once he got his trach there was lots of tracheal suctioning, which can be draining on parents and baby. It took 4 - 5 months for J to get a handle on those secretions and then it wasn't so bad. Changes in weather have always had an effect on J. We live in Florida so it is very humid and the weather is crazy, especially this time of year. Spring is actually worse for him because he has allergies as well. We started him on 10mg Claritin this year and that helped. J does have a G-tube, along with a Nissen. I can only say I wish I had done more research before I agreed to have the Nissen done. Within 6 months, J had a hiatal hernia resulting from the Nissen "slipping." He still
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We give K extra water when his secretions are thick. The weather has a lot to do with how thick K 's are unless he is sick. K has been on Robinul since he was 4 weeks old and it works great for him. We just have to adjust how much he gets by the weather. We also have a humidifier in the house and a extra one in his room. As far as sodium levels, K takes 1/4 teaspoon of lite salt everyday to help with electrolites, this is through his nutritionist.
Our other son affected by MTM, C, is getting a G-tube and Nissen soon, because he has reflux. Now he is breathing on his own, no assist. But they are talking about him being on a vent at night because his blood oxygen levels drop and his heart rate goes up and down. This seems to be a hereditary thing, because K does it too when he is mad or doesn't want to do something. C is in Childrens Hospital in Washington, DC. K also sees the doctors there.